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BURNABY LAKE NEWS – FLY BY WIRE – March, 21. 2007.


IMPORTANT NOTE TO ALL MEMBERS: We now REQUIRE a copy of your MAAC card in order to send you a membership card. After March 31st, we will be checking membership cards at the field and they will be required to fly. No Card - No Fly. For those of you that have paid your memberships, we thank you. We do however, REQUIRE you to mail in a copy of your 2007 MAAC card. Once again, we will not be processing MAAC cards or membership applications at the field.

You can mail your MAAC card to:
Richard Mrazek
4470 209 Street
Langley, BC
V3A 8Y3

You can scan you MAAC card and email it to:
Richard Mrazek - richard@mrazek.net
Jeff Franchini -

Greetings Burnaby Lake Flyers - Cabin Fever anyone?,

Hello all. Rain, rain, rain and then some more rain. Anyone got cabin fever?
Apart from few dry breaks the whole month was almost impossible to enjoy our RC flying. If the day turn sunny god forbid then it was usually quite windy and again not very pleasant for flying small RC planes. What can we do but wait for better weather and sunny days like on this photo below.
This month Geoff Dryer contributed with his review of G3 flight simulator. Person in spot light is Brad Trent one of the founders of our club. For member projects we will present a joint project of RastaFly and his alter ego Nenad Jankovic. So go and check it. We hope you all get inspired with our newsletter and offer some articles and help creating it and keeping it live.
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* info and reviews on new RC equipment. If you got any new equipment
   that you want to recommend drop few lines of text about it
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  your flight routine. Share some flight wisdom with club members
* tips on assembling, modeling, matching components for RC aircraft
* photographs and video footage. Check latest videos on Hood's Up
* got anything for sale???? Let us know, we will let everyone know.

This Months Spotlight

In an attempt to better acquaint club members with one another, we have decided to put one member under the spot light each month. Here you will learn more about the faces you see at the field very often. How many times has it happened to you that you know a face, but you don't know the name of the person at the field? We may help each other if we just get to know each other better.

So this month the Spot Light has landed on Brad Trent.
Brad is one of the club founders with a lot of RC experience. You can often see him on the field and he'll be more than ready to help you. You will often see him on the field with some new RC "toy" that you've seen only in magazines or internet. On the other hand he has planes over 10 years old. So here are few questions for Brad he'll tell you the rest.

Hoods-Up: I know that you are with the club from the very beginning. Tell us something about those early Burnaby Flyers club days and your first RC steps, yourself.

Brad Trent: I’ve been interested in RC planes from the time I first knew they existed , probably 50 years ago, but never had the combination of time and money to get involved until about 10 years ago. In 1997, for my Birthday, my wife said she’d take me to the hobby shop and buy me any RC trainer that I wanted. The choices were amazing, but for some reason, I was intrigued by an electric trainer, called the Goldberg Mirage 550. We bought that kit, and the covering, glue, radio set, battery packs (6 cell car packs) and charger needed to complete the build and get it airborne. While building, I revisited the shop for things I’d forgotten, and heard of a group of fliers at Burnaby Lake Park, who flew electric planes exclusively. I felt they would be the guys to get a new builder/pilot going on the right track, and found a friendly group of modelers, more than willing to help me out. Those people are now counted among my friends, and eventually formed the nucleus of what became the official club of which we are all now members.

My instructors at the park were Mike and Neal Achilles, for the most part, with help from a few other fellows who no longer fly there. I arrived with my new plane ready to maiden at the end of Jan., 1 month after buying it, and Neal took it up for the first flight. It was a wonderful experience to see something that I’d built actually fly! It was, of course, very underpowered , with the supplied direct drive 600 can motor and 6 cell pack, but it managed a couple of circuits of the field, and I was delighted. I took it home, and made the modifications suggested by Mike, Neal, and others that saw that first flight, adding a seventh cell to the pack, and changing out the servo operated on-off throttle switch for a real ESC. The following week Neal was able to actually r.o.g. the plane, instead of having to hand launch, and he was able to trim it out and give me my first flying lesson. Needless to say, I was hooked, and haven’t missed many Sundays at the field in the decade since then.

In late 1999, it became obvious that if our group of pilots wanted to continue flying at the park, which some of the group had been doing for over 30 years, it would be necessary to form a recognized club to deal with safety and scheduling issues with the Parks Dept., and to that end, several meetings were held, and an executive chosen, so that a MAAC club could be chartered. When asked to serve as the club’s first president, I decided to give it a go, and served in that capacity from 2000 through 2004, when I felt it was time to step down and let others pull the reins on our behalf.

Hoods-Up: I see you fly couple of planes at the moment. What do you fly right now and which is your favorite one

Brad Trent: The 2 models ready for flight lately are a GWS Formosa with a Park 400 BL motor, and a 12 year old Ivan Pettigrew prototype, his 63” version of the Shoestring. Unfortunately, the Shoestring met it’s fate on Sun., Feb.18th, when I hit one of the alders at the North end of the field while on landing approach. I thought I was inside the treeline when I turned onto final, but was in fact just behind the middle tree. The model caught the top foot or so of the branches, flipped into a vertical dive, with a shattered right wing, and impacted nose first into the field. The 10 cell Nimh 2000 pack did a great job of tearing out the nose, and pile driving the motor several inches into the soggy sod! So right now the Formosa, by default, is my favorite, and only, flyable model. There are several projects underway in my shop, so there will be some maiden flights of new models in the near future.

Hoods-Up: I noticed you always bring some new often “crazy” stuff. For example that Airhog AeroAce that we all got “infected” with started with you. Now you picked some hydrofoam, hehe. Where do you find all that stuff?

Brad Trent : I spend way too much time on aircraft modeling forums, and get “infected “ by some of these new crazes. I should spend less time online, and more time in my shop!

Hoods-Up: Do you care for any other RC models other than planes (cars, boats, etc..) or you possibly did that stuff before you got into RC airplanes?

Brad Trent : My sons were in their teens when RC cars first came on the scene, so the boys and I got into that to the extent that my back yard was an off road racetrack for several years, at least until the boys were old enough to drive “real” cars, and chase girls.

Hoods-Up: It seems our field is busy sometimes so there is many safety issues. What do you suggest we can do to keep things safe but also preserve the fun and sense of freedom that RC flying offers? How do we all live together better, …… pattern pilots, 3D pilots, Glider pilots, heli pilots, trainer pilots, scale plane pilots, etc …………..?

Brad Trent : There has to be mutual respect, and a sense of personal responsibility for safety, by every pilot at the field. Since 3D planes and helis tend to fly centered in front of the pilot, relatively close in, not in the established flight pattern, perhaps they should fly in separate “ time slots”, then land for a while and let the circuit pilots have the air for their turn. Not an easy system to implement or enforce, so co-operation of everyone is needed to make it work.

As for training, we have used Wed. evening, during the Summer months for this purpose for a number of years, though it soon became a social event for all pilots. Perhaps this one night per week should be specifically reserved for trainees and their instructors, especially since the MAAC “Wings” training program is to be adopted by all clubs, to keep our national insurance premiums at a reasonable level, by showing “due diligence” to the underwriters.

Hoods-Up: Say something politically incorrect. : ) I ask all spotlight guys this same question in the end.

Brad Trent : That’s pretty hard for me to do. Though not always PC in my own thoughts and feelings, as a newly minted Assistant Zone Director for MAAC, I’d better keep my big mouth shut! ;-) I don’t want to alienate any of the people I may have to go to bat for.

Thanks for letting me get up on the soapbox for a few minutes,


New Equipment this month…

Thunder Tiger - Electric Raptor

It seems that electric RC aircraft became so popular that many manufacturers convert their gas or glow models to fit the new demand. One of the good examples of this trend is long awaited E-Raptor from Thunder Tiger. Check HeliHobby.com for more information.
Basically it comes as two models that mostly differ in size. Smaller one is E550 and bigger brother is 620SE model. According to all reviews I've seen E-Raptor is behaving exactly like it's gas brother which means it is an agile and mean 3D helicopter.
You can see this heli on our field in hands of Kevin Rimmer. From what I've heard Alvin is also getting one and quite possibly Mark Alfonso. I'm sure they'll put a great show on the field with this heli.

For now you can talk to Jet Hobbies in Richmond if you want to order this helicopter. To my knowledge they are the only store that currently sells these helicopters in Lower Mainland.


Member's Projects

PICO MADNESS - Pico Shockwave 3D

Hey Guys,

Here is another “pico” project. This project was directly inspired by Jeff Francini’s success with “pico Slow Stick”. My buddy Nenad and I (Rastafly) both being test pilots for Pico Stick decided to try something more powerful and more maneuverable. We thought if Pico Stick flew very nice by just being a scale down version of GWS Slow Stick that scaling down some 3D foamie would do the same trick. We were sort’a right. We had two attempts. In first attempt we decided to scale down E-flite Tensor. We used following photo to start with.

Ugly uh? Yes it was just an ugly small image that we used to scale to appropriate size. We were shooting for 14-15 inches since Nenad insisted that plane should fit in his 10$ Canadian Tire tool box. Right there I thought,….. this is not how you design airplanes and it turned later on I was right.

The weight to wing span ratio was not working in our favor. The plane felt quite heavy for it size. I guess with all the experience I have now I was able to tell that something was wrong. I knew it would fly but it’ll act as “rock” and “no throttle” glide downs would be out of the question.

Eventually we built it. Here is what we put in it.
- E-flite Park 250 BL Outrunner Motor, 2200Kv (link)
- ESC Castle Creations Thunderbird - 9 (link)
- Receiver - Berg Microstamp 4L (link)
- 3 micro servos - Blue Bird BMS-303 (link)
- Thunder Power Pro Lite 350mAh (link)

- 3mm Depron for wings and fuselage from RC Test Pilot in Victoria

NOW …… I have to admit something sad and funny at the same time. Actually both Nenad and I should. We’re both quite experienced flyers and we managed to make a stupid mistake only an RC novice would make.
Excited as we were for assembling this puppy we got eager to try it out. There was a drizzle but we decided to go. Anyway we went to the nearby school field, turned on radio, connected battery and tossed the bird. Oh mama was it twitchy. I barely managed to keep it flying. I went hovering since it was the safest thing I could do considering that I noticed something was wrong in commands. I landed it with kind’a grace and looked at it, decided noting is wrong and chucked it again. The struggle to fly it was going on again. I nosed it down, no harm down and tried another time not being sure what is really wrong. After another struggle I managed to land it little harder this time so we needed CA glue.

We packed up and went back to my place, As I was doing some trimming I figured what IDIOTS we were. We had reversed ailerons. After almost 2 years of RC flying I managed to screw this up. I was very embarrassed about this. I guess we were both so excited that we simply didn’t notice.
Anyway we fixed this problem and get it to fly again. It did another 8-10 flights and sustained another 3 crashes before I retired it and decided to build a bigger plane.
One thing we learned from this is that we needed larger wing span for the weight of the plane. We unfortunately didn’t have the scale to measure our first creation.

We decided to try to make a scale down version of Shockwave Charger Bipe that I purchased from John Mrazek long ago. This is by far my favorite 3D foamie capable of just about anything.
We decided to make half of its size to basically have 17-18 inches wing span.
Small ?

We took shots of my foamie and scaled it down to little less than half. We printed everything on simple Ink Jet Printer but in parts since some elements needed stitching due to small paper format used.
We printed, stitched and placed the stencil on 3mm depron we got from RcTestPilot.com in Victoria. Cutting the whole thing was a breeze and we did it quick and precise. We just used all the electronics from our unsuccessful Tensor Pico plane and placed it in similar manner to new small plane.

We had to change the design of Schockwave since the original has 4 servos and we needed to use a servo for both ailerons. We decided to put it on top with 180 degrees arm sticking out on both sides

(12 inch ruler against the Pico Charger 3D)

After the first test flight that went very, very smooth and predictable we decided to add the carbon rod to the lower wing for additional rigidity. On the second flight I managed to knock off the propeller from the center of the motor shaft. I heard some weird sound on taking off but I paid no attention. Later, in attempt to hover the prop came off the shaft and I crashed but quite gently.
We did few more flights and it was beautiful. I can hardly wait for a day with no wind so I can try to navigate hovering to get it in front of me. As for other maneuvers it just does it all. Almost as good as its bigger brother.
Here is the video to prove this, just click on the image below to play it


RC Flight Simulators - G3

Why Buy a Simulator?

One of the biggest improvements in radio control technology in the last few years is the RC Flight simulation software that has made learning to fly a lot less expensive. Now it is possible to learn to fly, test new maneuvers, or try new types of aircraft without risking the real investment. Another advantage of the simulator is that you can fly when the weather won’t permit the real thing.

When I first flew radio control planes in the 1970's I spent the entire first season trying to get to the point where I could take off and land with confidence. This year I have witnessed new pilots earning their wings after 6 flights because they spend dozens or even hundreds of hours flying in the simulator first.

When I was contemplating getting back into the RC game last year, my first purchase was the RealFlight G3.0 simulator. This system comes complete with software and an Interlink tm controller which is identical to a 7 channel transmitter. This controller plugs into a USB port on your computer. The package also includes cables that allow you to use your own transmitter or have two people fly at once in a split screen. If you have an older computer then be aware that the optimum system requirements are:

- Intel Pentium 4.0 Ghz or equivalent
- 3D accelerated video card with 128 Mb (or more) RAM
- 1 GB RAM

You can get away with a less powerful computer but check if your video card is supported at http://www.knifeedge.com/rfvc_compatibility.php

RealFlight G3.5

In October 2006 RealFlight released version 3.5 and I was pleasantly surprised that the upgrade from version 3.0 to version 3.5 was free when downloaded from their software site. I suspect that 3.5 was released to compete with the Hangar 9 FS One simulator software which first hit the market in the middle of 2006. Please note the Norburn hobbies has both the RealFlight G3.5 and the FS One software running in the store for you to try.

RealFlight G3.5 Comes with 40 airplane models that include fuel and electric models, gliders and even a blimp. For the helicopter enthusiasts there are 23 different models.

If you don't see the particular aircraft that you want then you can also purchase add-on volumes. These include additional planes, helicopters and flying fields. There are currently two expansion packs and five additional volumes available. See http://www.realflight.com for a complete listing.

For flying venues RealFlight includes both photorealistic flying fields and image based fields. Night flying is new to G3.5 but is limited to only 2 fields. The flying fields include objects that interact with the aircraft. You can for example run into objects or bounce off them rather realistically in the case of the canopy tents.

Other Features

RealFight G3.5 comes with a variety of tools to aid in the training process.

Flight Failures - Random flight failures can be enabled that include real world events such as radio interference and stuck servos.

Wind - Wind speed and direct can adjusted although the wind is constant and is therefore not too realistic.

Sun - The sun's position in the sky can be altered.

Events - Special events allows players to sharpen their skills. Events include Autorotation/deadstick landings, free style, pylon racing and spot landings.

MultiPlayer - Using your own transmitter permits two players to fly at once. You can also fly with another player through the internet. The screen is split but you can see and interact with the other aircraft

Recordings - You can record your flight to share with others.

Training - There are two types of training provided. The interactive training uses aids to sharpen your skills. These include helicopter orientation and hover training and airplane hover training. The virtual flight instruction provides demonstrations from professional pilots such as Jason Shulman. The training system is a great way to see how complex maneuvers are performed.

Other Gadgets - The screen can include navigation guides displaying the current altitude, direction, speed, and the amount of fuel left. The camera position can be altered including the cockpit view. You can also display the radio stick position and a binocular view.

Customize It

One of the biggest differences between the RealFlight software and other simulator systems is the level of customization that can be applied. This customization includes the ability to modify and add new airports or aircraft. At http://www.knifeedge.com/forums you can find customized (existing) and brand new planes and airports for download. I was able to download a copy of the E-flite Brio 10 which is a plane that I currently own. For the really technical users you can also download the GMAX software to build your own planes from scratch.

Within the G3.5 software you can make modifications to existing aircraft and re save them into the custom folder. This can be anything from minor changes such as changing throws and exponential values or major alterations including changing the shape of the wing, using a different motor or size of battery.

I have found customization capabilities very useful for testing real world issues. Recently I was having some problems with my Hyperion CAP 232 and I suspected that it had to do with the center of gravity. I was able to adjust the center of gravity for a similar aircraft in the G3.5 software and reproduce the issue. This saved me a lot of modification with potentially disastrous results at the field.

How Real Is It?

How does the RealFlight G3.5 software simulation compare to flying the real thing? Overall it is pretty close in the physics of flight and the characteristics of the particular aircraft but it is a perfect world. No simulator software on the market (yet) can mimic the randomness of the field on takeoff or the gust of wind in the opposite direct just before landing but it is still challenging. The perspective from the pilot's point of view is very realistic. I like the photorealistic fields better than the image based ones because they look more realistic.

Overall I find the G3.5 simulator very useful for sharpening my skills and especially handy for trying new moves without risking crashing the real thing. Remember in the simulator you can just hit the reset button!

article by Geoff Dryer

Friendly Advice for flying at the field…

The club executive is preparing set of rules and recommendations that we will let you know about as soon as they are available. Meanwhile PLEASE use common sense and follow these general rules:
* Never fly over the cricket pitch if cricket players are using it.
  In general never fly over people on the field.
* Make sure your aircraft is always in front of you. In other words never go behind the flight line.
  Do not ever attempt any maneuvers that will get your aircraft behind the flight line.
* If you see three pilots on the flight line and you intend to be the fourth one,
  make sure you have a spotter with you.
  This way you can focus on the aircraft and do "your thing" while the spotter makes sure
  that other air traffic will not be in your way. It's like having a private butler, hehehehhe
* If there are five pilots on the flight line make sure you WAIT until one of them lands.
  Remember there can be only 5 pilots on the flight line.
* If you are flying a helicopter make sure you are always located at the SOUTH end of the field.
  This location no longer changes with the wind direction.
* If you are flying a helicopter consider your flight style and adjust it to the given situation.
  If you are not flying the circuit (like planes) but rather performing some 3D moves, make sure you
  are on the far end of the field and that all other pilots are aware where you are and what you are doing.
* If you are flying a 3D plane follow the same rules applicable to helicopters
* NEVER turn your radio ON unless you make sure your frequency is free.
  Go to the board, put your pin on the board, and turn your radio ON.
  After your flight take the pin off the board and turn OFF your radio.

Fall/Winter Flying Schedule

These are our official, (scheduled) allotted times. No one else may use the fields during these times other than flyers and your executive worked hard to get these days for you, make sure that they’re used!!!

Wednesdays: the whole day until Dark
Saturdays: the whole day until Dark
Sundays: the whole day until Dark

Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday are casual times.

This usually works on "first come first served" basis. If no one is using the field, we should be able to use it as long as we put the signs up and take them down once we are done. If lawn mower man is working on the field go and talk to him. They are usually fine with either taking a break (they like to sit and watch us fly) or quickly finishing that side of the field.

Coming Events:

Nothing on horizon, at least not locally.


Here is some nice airliner paint jobs. To download the archive of all photos (10Mb) click here.

Woow .... is this the next step on Burnaby Lake field? I guess as long as you put the electric motor in the plane you should be OK. Size doesn't matter. Does that mean we can start flying in our models now????? No need for remote control here.
If you want more info on this ask Dave Scoular, he sent me this stuff. : )

And here is a couple of interesting links. A crazy Frenchman Yves Rossy becomes a first jet wing flyer.
Look at the amazing videos on his web site.

JET PLANE CRASH - note the cables that were in the way
2 LARGE BIPES CRASH - while you are in the loop you don't look around much
SU-30 - wicked performance jet

CHARSH PHOTOS - here are some nice RC crash photos

Yours truly
Dejan Stanisavljevic (RastaFly)
Burnaby Lake Flyers

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