BURNABY LAKE NEWS – FLY BY WIRE – March, 21.
NOTE TO ALL MEMBERS: We
now REQUIRE a copy of your MAAC card in order to send you
a membership card. After March 31st, we will be checking membership
cards at the field and they will be required to fly. No Card
- No Fly. For those of you that have paid your memberships,
we thank you. We do however, REQUIRE you to mail in a copy
of your 2007 MAAC card. Once again, we will not be processing
MAAC cards or membership applications at the field.
can mail your MAAC card to:
4470 209 Street
can scan you MAAC card and email it to:
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Greetings Burnaby Lake Flyers - Cabin
all. Rain, rain, rain and then some more rain. Anyone got cabin
Apart from few dry breaks the whole month was almost impossible
to enjoy our RC flying. If the day turn sunny god forbid then
it was usually quite windy and again not very pleasant for flying
small RC planes. What can we do but wait for better weather and
sunny days like on this photo below.
This month Geoff Dryer contributed with his review of G3 flight
simulator. Person in spot light is Brad Trent one of the founders
of our club. For member projects we will present a joint project
of RastaFly and his alter ego Nenad Jankovic. So go and check
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This Months Spotlight
an attempt to better acquaint club members with one another, we
have decided to put one member under the spot light each month. Here
you will learn more about the faces you see at the field very often.
How many times has it happened to you that you know a face, but you
don't know the name of the person at the field? We may help each
other if we just get to know each other better.
So this month
the Spot Light has landed on Brad Trent.
Brad is one of the club founders with a lot of RC experience. You
can often see him on the field and he'll be more than ready to help
you. You will often see him on the field with some new RC "toy"
that you've seen only in magazines or internet. On the other hand
he has planes over 10 years old. So here are few questions for Brad
he'll tell you the rest.
I know that you are with the club from the very beginning. Tell
us something about those early Burnaby Flyers club days and your
first RC steps, yourself.
Trent: I’ve been interested in RC planes from the
time I first knew they existed , probably 50 years ago, but never
had the combination of time and money to get involved until about
10 years ago. In 1997, for my Birthday, my wife said she’d
take me to the hobby shop and buy me any RC trainer that I wanted.
The choices were amazing, but for some reason, I was intrigued by
an electric trainer, called the Goldberg Mirage 550. We bought that
kit, and the covering, glue, radio set, battery packs (6 cell car
packs) and charger needed to complete the build and get it airborne.
While building, I revisited the shop for things I’d forgotten,
and heard of a group of fliers at Burnaby Lake Park, who flew electric
planes exclusively. I felt they would be the guys to get a new builder/pilot
going on the right track, and found a friendly group of modelers,
more than willing to help me out. Those people are now counted among
my friends, and eventually formed the nucleus of what became the
official club of which we are all now members.
My instructors at the
park were Mike and Neal Achilles, for the most part, with help from
a few other fellows who no longer fly there. I arrived with my new
plane ready to maiden at the end of Jan., 1 month after buying it,
and Neal took it up for the first flight. It was a wonderful experience
to see something that I’d built actually fly! It was, of course,
very underpowered , with the supplied direct drive 600 can motor
and 6 cell pack, but it managed a couple of circuits of the field,
and I was delighted. I took it home, and made the modifications
suggested by Mike, Neal, and others that saw that first flight,
adding a seventh cell to the pack, and changing out the servo operated
on-off throttle switch for a real ESC. The following week Neal was
able to actually r.o.g. the plane, instead of having to hand launch,
and he was able to trim it out and give me my first flying lesson.
Needless to say, I was hooked, and haven’t missed many Sundays
at the field in the decade since then.
In late 1999, it became
obvious that if our group of pilots wanted to continue flying at
the park, which some of the group had been doing for over 30 years,
it would be necessary to form a recognized club to deal with safety
and scheduling issues with the Parks Dept., and to that end, several
meetings were held, and an executive chosen, so that a MAAC club
could be chartered. When asked to serve as the club’s first
president, I decided to give it a go, and served in that capacity
from 2000 through 2004, when I felt it was time to step down and
let others pull the reins on our behalf.
I see you fly couple of planes at the moment. What do you fly right
now and which is your favorite one
Brad Trent: The 2 models ready for flight lately
are a GWS Formosa with a Park 400 BL motor, and a 12 year old Ivan
Pettigrew prototype, his 63” version of the Shoestring. Unfortunately,
the Shoestring met it’s fate on Sun., Feb.18th, when I hit
one of the alders at the North end of the field while on landing
approach. I thought I was inside the treeline when I turned onto
final, but was in fact just behind the middle tree. The model caught
the top foot or so of the branches, flipped into a vertical dive,
with a shattered right wing, and impacted nose first into the field.
The 10 cell Nimh 2000 pack did a great job of tearing out the nose,
and pile driving the motor several inches into the soggy sod! So
right now the Formosa, by default, is my favorite, and only, flyable
model. There are several projects underway in my shop, so there
will be some maiden flights of new models in the near future.
I noticed you always bring some new often “crazy”
stuff. For example that Airhog AeroAce that we all got “infected”
with started with you. Now you picked some hydrofoam, hehe. Where
do you find all that stuff?
Trent : I spend way too much time on aircraft modeling
forums, and get “infected “ by some of these new crazes.
I should spend less time online, and more time in my shop!
Hoods-Up: Do you care for any other RC models
other than planes (cars, boats, etc..) or you possibly did that
stuff before you got into RC airplanes?
Trent : My sons were in their teens when RC cars first
came on the scene, so the boys and I got into that to the extent
that my back yard was an off road racetrack for several years, at
least until the boys were old enough to drive “real”
cars, and chase girls.
It seems our field is busy sometimes so there is many safety issues.
What do you suggest we can do to keep things safe but also preserve
the fun and sense of freedom that RC flying offers? How do we all
live together better, …… pattern pilots, 3D pilots,
Glider pilots, heli pilots, trainer pilots, scale plane pilots,
Trent : There has to be mutual respect, and a sense of
personal responsibility for safety, by every pilot at the field.
Since 3D planes and helis tend to fly centered in front of the pilot,
relatively close in, not in the established flight pattern, perhaps
they should fly in separate “ time slots”, then land
for a while and let the circuit pilots have the air for their turn.
Not an easy system to implement or enforce, so co-operation of everyone
is needed to make it work.
As for training, we have
used Wed. evening, during the Summer months for this purpose for
a number of years, though it soon became a social event for all
pilots. Perhaps this one night per week should be specifically reserved
for trainees and their instructors, especially since the MAAC “Wings”
training program is to be adopted by all clubs, to keep our national
insurance premiums at a reasonable level, by showing “due
diligence” to the underwriters.
Say something politically incorrect. : ) I ask all spotlight guys
this same question in the end.
Trent : That’s pretty hard for me to do. Though not
always PC in my own thoughts and feelings, as a newly minted Assistant
Zone Director for MAAC, I’d better keep my big mouth shut!
;-) I don’t want to alienate any of the people I may have
to go to bat for.
Thanks for letting
me get up on the soapbox for a few minutes,
New Equipment this
Tiger - Electric Raptor
It seems that
electric RC aircraft became so popular that many manufacturers convert
their gas or glow models to fit the new demand. One of the good
examples of this trend is long awaited E-Raptor from Thunder Tiger.
for more information.
Basically it comes as two models that mostly differ in size. Smaller
one is E550 and bigger brother is 620SE model. According to all
reviews I've seen E-Raptor is behaving exactly like it's gas brother
which means it is an agile and mean 3D helicopter.
You can see this heli on our field in hands of Kevin Rimmer. From
what I've heard Alvin is also getting one and quite possibly Mark
Alfonso. I'm sure they'll put a great show on the field with this
For now you
can talk to Jet Hobbies
in Richmond if you want to order this helicopter. To my knowledge
they are the only store that currently sells these helicopters in
PICO MADNESS - Pico Shockwave 3D
Here is another
“pico” project. This project was directly inspired by
Jeff Francini’s success with “pico Slow Stick”.
My buddy Nenad and I (Rastafly) both being test pilots for Pico
Stick decided to try something more powerful and more maneuverable.
We thought if Pico Stick flew very nice by just being a scale down
version of GWS Slow Stick that scaling down some 3D foamie would
do the same trick. We were sort’a right. We had two attempts.
In first attempt we decided to scale down E-flite Tensor. We used
following photo to start with.
Ugly uh? Yes
it was just an ugly small image that we used to scale to appropriate
size. We were shooting for 14-15 inches since Nenad insisted that
plane should fit in his 10$ Canadian Tire tool box. Right there
I thought,….. this is not how you design airplanes and it
turned later on I was right.
The weight to
wing span ratio was not working in our favor. The plane felt quite
heavy for it size. I guess with all the experience I have now I
was able to tell that something was wrong. I knew it would fly but
it’ll act as “rock” and “no throttle”
glide downs would be out of the question.
built it. Here is what we put in it.
- E-flite Park 250 BL Outrunner Motor, 2200Kv (link)
- ESC Castle Creations Thunderbird - 9 (link)
- Receiver - Berg Microstamp 4L (link)
- 3 micro servos - Blue Bird BMS-303 (link)
- Thunder Power Pro Lite 350mAh (link)
- 3mm Depron
for wings and fuselage from RC Test Pilot in Victoria
I have to admit something sad and funny at the same time. Actually
both Nenad and I should. We’re both quite experienced flyers
and we managed to make a stupid mistake only an RC novice would
Excited as we were for assembling this puppy we got eager to try
it out. There was a drizzle but we decided to go. Anyway we went
to the nearby school field, turned on radio, connected battery and
tossed the bird. Oh mama was it twitchy. I barely managed to keep
it flying. I went hovering since it was the safest thing I could
do considering that I noticed something was wrong in commands. I
landed it with kind’a grace and looked at it, decided noting
is wrong and chucked it again. The struggle to fly it was going
on again. I nosed it down, no harm down and tried another time not
being sure what is really wrong. After another struggle I managed
to land it little harder this time so we needed CA glue.
We packed up
and went back to my place, As I was doing some trimming I figured
what IDIOTS we were. We had reversed ailerons. After almost 2 years
of RC flying I managed to screw this up. I was very embarrassed
about this. I guess we were both so excited that we simply didn’t
Anyway we fixed this problem and get it to fly again. It did another
8-10 flights and sustained another 3 crashes before I retired it
and decided to build a bigger plane.
One thing we learned from this is that we needed larger wing span
for the weight of the plane. We unfortunately didn’t have
the scale to measure our first creation.
We decided to
try to make a scale down version of Shockwave Charger Bipe that
I purchased from John Mrazek long ago. This is by far my favorite
3D foamie capable of just about anything.
We decided to make half of its size to basically have 17-18 inches
We took shots
of my foamie and scaled it down to little less than half. We printed
everything on simple Ink Jet Printer but in parts since some elements
needed stitching due to small paper format used.
We printed, stitched and placed the stencil on 3mm depron we got
from RcTestPilot.com in Victoria. Cutting the whole thing was a
breeze and we did it quick and precise. We just used all the electronics
from our unsuccessful Tensor Pico plane and placed it in similar
manner to new small plane.
We had to change the
design of Schockwave since the original has 4 servos and we needed
to use a servo for both ailerons. We decided to put it on top with
180 degrees arm sticking out on both sides
(12 inch ruler
against the Pico Charger 3D)
After the first
test flight that went very, very smooth and predictable we decided
to add the carbon rod to the lower wing for additional rigidity.
On the second flight I managed to knock off the propeller from the
center of the motor shaft. I heard some weird sound on taking off
but I paid no attention. Later, in attempt to hover the prop came
off the shaft and I crashed but quite gently.
We did few more flights and it was beautiful. I can hardly wait
for a day with no wind so I can try to navigate hovering to get
it in front of me. As for other maneuvers it just does it all. Almost
as good as its bigger brother.
Here is the video to prove this, just click on the image below to
play it (9Mb)
RC Flight Simulators - G3
Buy a Simulator?
One of the biggest
improvements in radio control technology in the last few years is
the RC Flight simulation software that has made learning to fly
a lot less expensive. Now it is possible to learn to fly, test new
maneuvers, or try new types of aircraft without risking the real
investment. Another advantage of the simulator is that you can fly
when the weather won’t permit the real thing.
When I first
flew radio control planes in the 1970's I spent the entire first
season trying to get to the point where I could take off and land
with confidence. This year I have witnessed new pilots earning their
wings after 6 flights because they spend dozens or even hundreds
of hours flying in the simulator first.
When I was contemplating
getting back into the RC game last year, my first purchase was the
RealFlight G3.0 simulator. This system comes complete with software
and an Interlink tm controller which is identical to a 7 channel
transmitter. This controller plugs into a USB port on your computer.
The package also includes cables that allow you to use your own
transmitter or have two people fly at once in a split screen. If
you have an older computer then be aware that the optimum system
- Intel Pentium
4.0 Ghz or equivalent
- 3D accelerated video card with 128 Mb (or more) RAM
- 1 GB RAM
You can get
away with a less powerful computer but check if your video card
is supported at http://www.knifeedge.com/rfvc_compatibility.php
In October 2006
RealFlight released version 3.5 and I was pleasantly surprised that
the upgrade from version 3.0 to version 3.5 was free when downloaded
from their software site. I suspect that 3.5 was released to compete
with the Hangar 9 FS One simulator software which first hit the
market in the middle of 2006. Please note the Norburn hobbies has
both the RealFlight G3.5 and the FS One software running in the
store for you to try.
Comes with 40 airplane models that include fuel and electric models,
gliders and even a blimp. For the helicopter enthusiasts there are
23 different models.
If you don't
see the particular aircraft that you want then you can also purchase
add-on volumes. These include additional planes, helicopters and
flying fields. There are currently two expansion packs and five
additional volumes available. See http://www.realflight.com
for a complete listing.
For flying venues
RealFlight includes both photorealistic flying fields and image
based fields. Night flying is new to G3.5 but is limited to only
2 fields. The flying fields include objects that interact with the
aircraft. You can for example run into objects or bounce off them
rather realistically in the case of the canopy tents.
comes with a variety of tools to aid in the training process.
- Random flight failures can be enabled that include real world
events such as radio interference and stuck servos.
Wind - Wind
speed and direct can adjusted although the wind is constant and
is therefore not too realistic.
Sun - The sun's
position in the sky can be altered.
Events - Special
events allows players to sharpen their skills. Events include Autorotation/deadstick
landings, free style, pylon racing and spot landings.
- Using your own transmitter permits two players to fly at once.
You can also fly with another player through the internet. The screen
is split but you can see and interact with the other aircraft
You can record your flight to share with others.
Training - There
are two types of training provided. The interactive training uses
aids to sharpen your skills. These include helicopter orientation
and hover training and airplane hover training. The virtual flight
instruction provides demonstrations from professional pilots such
as Jason Shulman. The training system is a great way to see how
complex maneuvers are performed.
- The screen can include navigation guides displaying the current
altitude, direction, speed, and the amount of fuel left. The camera
position can be altered including the cockpit view. You can also
display the radio stick position and a binocular view.
One of the biggest
differences between the RealFlight software and other simulator
systems is the level of customization that can be applied. This
customization includes the ability to modify and add new airports
or aircraft. At http://www.knifeedge.com/forums you can find customized
(existing) and brand new planes and airports for download. I was
able to download a copy of the E-flite Brio 10 which is a plane
that I currently own. For the really technical users you can also
download the GMAX software to build your own planes from scratch.
Within the G3.5
software you can make modifications to existing aircraft and re
save them into the custom folder. This can be anything from minor
changes such as changing throws and exponential values or major
alterations including changing the shape of the wing, using a different
motor or size of battery.
I have found
customization capabilities very useful for testing real world issues.
Recently I was having some problems with my Hyperion CAP 232 and
I suspected that it had to do with the center of gravity. I was
able to adjust the center of gravity for a similar aircraft in the
G3.5 software and reproduce the issue. This saved me a lot of modification
with potentially disastrous results at the field.
How Real Is
How does the
RealFlight G3.5 software simulation compare to flying the real thing?
Overall it is pretty close in the physics of flight and the characteristics
of the particular aircraft but it is a perfect world. No simulator
software on the market (yet) can mimic the randomness of the field
on takeoff or the gust of wind in the opposite direct just before
landing but it is still challenging. The perspective from the pilot's
point of view is very realistic. I like the photorealistic fields
better than the image based ones because they look more realistic.
Overall I find
the G3.5 simulator very useful for sharpening my skills and especially
handy for trying new moves without risking crashing the real thing.
Remember in the simulator you can just hit the reset button!
article by Geoff Dryer
Friendly Advice for flying at
The club executive
is preparing set of rules and recommendations that we will let you
know about as soon as they are available. Meanwhile PLEASE use common
sense and follow these general rules:
* Never fly over the cricket pitch if cricket players are using
In general never fly over people on the field.
* Make sure your aircraft is always in front of you. In other words
never go behind the flight line.
Do not ever attempt any maneuvers that will get your
aircraft behind the flight line.
* If you see three pilots on the flight line and you intend to be
the fourth one,
make sure you have a spotter with you.
This way you can focus on the aircraft and do "your
thing" while the spotter makes sure
that other air traffic will not be in your way. It's
like having a private butler, hehehehhe
* If there are five pilots on the flight line make sure you WAIT
until one of them lands.
Remember there can be only 5 pilots on the flight line.
* If you are flying a helicopter make sure you are always located at the
SOUTH end of the field.
This location no longer changes with the wind
* If you are flying a helicopter consider your flight style and
adjust it to the given situation.
If you are not flying the circuit (like planes) but
rather performing some 3D moves, make sure you
are on the far end of the field and that all other pilots
are aware where you are and what you are doing.
* If you are flying a 3D plane follow the same rules applicable
* NEVER turn your radio ON unless you make sure your frequency is
Go to the board, put your pin on the board, and turn
your radio ON.
After your flight take the pin off the board and turn
OFF your radio.
* DON'T DO ANYTHING ON THE FIELD THAT YOU WOULDN'T LIKE
ANYONE ELSE TO DO WHILE YOU ARE FLYING
Fall/Winter Flying Schedule
These are our
official, (scheduled) allotted times. No one else may use the fields
during these times other than flyers and your executive worked hard
to get these days for you, make sure that they’re used!!!
Wednesdays: the whole day until Dark
Saturdays: the whole day until Dark
Sundays: the whole day until Dark
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday are casual times.
This usually works on "first come first served" basis.
If no one is using the field, we should be able to use it as long
as we put the signs up and take them down once we are done. If lawn
mower man is working on the field go and talk to him. They are usually
fine with either taking a break (they like to sit and watch us fly)
or quickly finishing that side of the field.
Nothing on horizon,
at least not locally.
Fun Stuff - NEW GALLERIES
Here is some
nice airliner paint jobs. To download the archive of all photos
(10Mb) click here.
Woow .... is this the next step on Burnaby Lake field? I guess as
long as you put the electric motor in the plane you should be OK.
Size doesn't matter. Does that mean we can start flying in our models
now????? No need for remote control here.
If you want more info on this ask Dave Scoular, he sent me this
stuff. : )
And here is a couple of interesting links. A crazy Frenchman Yves
Rossy becomes a first jet wing flyer.
Look at the amazing videos on his web site.
CRASH - note the cables that were in the way
2 LARGE BIPES
CRASH - while you are in the loop you don't look around much
- wicked performance jet
PHOTOS - here are some nice RC crash photos
Dejan Stanisavljevic (RastaFly)
Burnaby Lake Flyers